For me ‘There’ comes in varieties… ‘There’ is a place as in “Lets go to Cardiff” – “Yes, lets go there”… quite a common trainspotter discussion. Then you have the ‘There’ in the past sense – suddenly it is a place and a time because changes have happened since you went there. No matter how small the time frame is or the changes are, it still is not ‘There’ as in lets go in the first instance because until you get there you have no frame of reference to measure your decision against but once you have been… you see where I’m waffling from 
Fascinating take on a difficult quote Judith – I did wonder how you’d get on with the grenades lobbed in your direction after your Improv post 